83" at the first fret , . But if I saw one with that much space, I'd have to wonder if the neck is original to the body, and if the body is full-thickness (or has a more shallow neck pocket). Then evaluate the saddles grooves so see if they need. Platinum Blonde. I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. Once installation is complete, simply re-intonate your guitar to match the new scale. Will. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. Staten Island NYC. Details are below so I don't bore you now. Warmoth can be pricey. To get the action where He wants it (2,4 mm att low E and 1,7 at high E) I´d have to lower the saddles (individual saddles. Completely normal. I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. 35mm (0. 1) I based it around a Jazzmaster neck pocket position, but with the Jaguar's neck pickup positioned relative to the end of the fretboard-overhang on a 22-fret neck, so the whole body sits about a half-inch 'lower' than the FCS interpretation. AxeMan_DadMan Strat-Talker. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. Fretboard Overhang: When replacing a 21-fret neck with a 22-fret neck, you may. 085”, 0. The former offers possibilities, the latter does not. So I opted for a new neck instead of a regretting. Fretboard overhang doesn't mean the bridge is placed differently on the body. James Collins Guest. Ontario County. I've already routed out the pickup cavities based on a template set. Fretboard overhang doesn't mean the bridge is placed differently on the body. The thing is, the new Pro model only has 19 frets (as opposed to the 21 on the new 59 reissue and the older reissues). Its a fretboard overhang, totally normal. . 75". Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang (Note: 21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Fat Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard. 0″ thick neck. On the Tele body, a standard Stratocaster neck is sufficient. This guitar will be a surprise gift for a friend with a lot of personal meaning. Hi Does anyone know of any AFTER MARKET manufacturers who make full 21 fret necks? I need a full neck, not a 20 fret neck with a 21st fret overhang. It didn’t take much to fix it. 30. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard. The neck thickness is 21mm in the middle of the. My question conerns the position of the pickguard. Strat Neck, Rosewood Fretboard 12 Inch Radius,Rollernut,22 Fret Overhang Fretboard. One consideration might be the position of the neck pickup, which would usually be centred on the node 1/4 of the way up the string -. 5" and inside the box the neck will continue in and be glued to the underside of the lid. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. And since most folks also shim the neck on the JM, the overhanging fret won't give any problems. Dec 25, 2020. 125" in either sides. 75" neck, you MUST use the Warmoth. Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. Fast playing satin finish, comfortable C “modern thin” shape. This is from a 2000-2001 catalog. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. 2. It is usually referred to as a feature. trock. You first need to unglue the upper part of the fretboard that hangs out onto the soundboard by the soundhole. One consideration might be the position of the neck pickup, which would usually be centred on the node 1/4 of the way up the string - exactly where the 24th fret would be. More Info. The body is a mighty mite and has a deeper than standard neck pocket. The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. 736The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. How can I make a stratocaster with 24 frets without any fretboard overhang that, doesn't move the neck pickup? Am I simply answering my own question? Does No overhang mean you don't have to move the neck pickup? Because I. New media New comments Search media. The only problem I'd anticipate about cutting it would be to cut into the truss rod. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard drawn, or simple press ENTER to default to the Origin. Another twist: FretFind 2D also allows you to set different overhang values for the "first" and "last" string and/or the nut and bridge. Have. I wouldn't be in a rush to move the bridge or neck. number of strings = 4. 090 thick. The difference between a flat fretboard and one with contour. 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. Compatibility Issues. Reactions: cip 123. If the neck has a fretboard overhang it will cover the gap. Somewhere, Wonderful. New posts Search forums. Tape the two pages together. This reduces the height of the gap between the top of the body and the bottom of the fretboard where it overhangs at the 22nd fret. make an aftermarket 24 fret neck that's not just a fretboard overhang (and I don't really care about the upper frets that much, but that still leaves a neck pocket gap), and I'm a little dubious about picking up one of the extremely cheap Chinese-made 24 fret necks on eBay (although as a temporary. Now just run the whole jig past your flush trim bit. 175 mm). Kiesel/Hipshot trem. . Feb 2, 2001. See both screenshots that have the yellow highlights pointing at the areas. Finally, I never saw an aesthetically perfect finish below the fretboard overhang of a Gibson archtop. ElliottStrong Supporting Member. The pic below shows the new neck on the bottom compared to my fender stock neck on the top. You may have to do this a number of times. Business, Economics, and Finance. 2291 posts · Joined 2015. A fret leveling file is also good for this job; I just happen to prefer the finer cut of. Tape the paper to the fretboard. Then I repeated this entire procedure near the bridge, since my strings are spaced at equal spaces at BOTH the nut and the bridge. Jul 16, 2012 #14 hammer40 said:From the pictures in your other thread and the pdf, it looks to me as if maybe you are missing the fretboard overhang. . Switching from a 21 to 22 fret neck usually requires no modification to the guitar. M. Joined Oct 25, 2008 Messages 5,211 Reaction score 1,736. Here's the only Ebay cheapo that I found that was similar Nov 4, 2023 #29. The neck fits in the pocket the same way and the nut is the same distance from the bridge. prorecordingworkshop. Please check the Warmoth website to ensure this neck will for your neck pocket. 21 inch Fretboard. Like this:. Dec 25, 2015 #5. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. On a Dlx 5 string,. 2: that seems like a lot to me as well, but I don't have enough experience with. There are four input modes for overhang. What am I missing here? I've never had a problem sliding the PG out from under the overhang on any of my Fenders with a 22 fret neck I do find the neck pickup stops against the neck pickup rout, unless there's a swimming pool rout or it's a SC in a HB rout. The string spacing is 74mm string-to-string at the bridge and 49. The fretboard I got from Stew Mac and I have a second board in house so redoing it with a new, flat board is no problem. 74K subscribers in the Luthier community. It's an aftermarket pearloid w/b/w pickguard and a maple/ebony standard thin neck on a USA Fender body. It is not possible to fit a neck on a guitar without it. Only problem is the neck sits too low in the pocket, not as in terms of the action, but the other way, so the fret board is push right up against the top pick. Fanned fretboard (last string 16 inch, first string 15 inch) (You will have to use something other than a regular miter box to cut the fret slots, but it can make a really cool looking instrument)OK! I think I've got it for at least the 4 string necks. Purple Drink finish, with translucent black burst (*special request to have the burst stop at the flat top) 3-piece body layer option. my partscasters with overhanging 22 fret boards have about . I designed it to fit a Warmoth 24-3/4" scale conversion tiltback neck so that it should leave a minimal fretboard overhang on the body, and sufficient neck angle to meet an ABR-1 bridge. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangPosted by u/wies5 - 4 votes and 3 commentsEpiphone Les Pauls are popular with players at all levels, from beginners to budget-conscious pros—and with good reason. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Messages 10,311. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. Any help with this would be most appreciated!Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. Normally the heel is the same (rounded, with the 22nd fret hanging over). I like to see about . Please visit FretFind 2D . CryptoIf its a standard Strat pickguard, then yeah there will be issues. At the age of 69, and with self-isolation a reality, I decided to fulfill a long-cherished dream and build a 1965-era Strat. Hello, I have a 2007 Ash Lite Telecaster that I recently got a new neck for. org Regular. 5 - 27" scale with a fretboard overhang of . . GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Not at all cheap, but well worth it IMO. To me this is significantly more comfortable because my fretting hand sits closer to the right side of the fretboard, meaning right in the middle instead of on the left. Tried. What this means is that for most OEM necks the bottom of the heel to underneath the fretboard is 3/4″ or . That distances are almost equal to fretboard overhang, meanly 0. You can use a Fender spec neck on it but unless it is a 22 fret with the fretboard overhang you will see a gap at the end between it and the neck pocket. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. When the neck and body are assembled, there is a small space between then end of the fretboard (the last fret near the body). I got some router bite on this fretboard. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. janeray1940 Active member. 5-3mm . I, however, would much rather have you looking at my new development. this guitar neck is compatible for fender st-style electric guitar neck replacement. 481” maximum heel width, 3. jazz Bass 74. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. . 09375 inches, but for all I know that's only appropriate for guitar. 736Okay, It dawned on me last night that Matt Sharp (Weezer, the Rentals, solo) is probably my biggest influence. Widthwise, the neck is 56mm at the zero fret and about 67. #14 · Mar 7, 2017. You could take down the entire fret end with files or even just coarse sandpaper while you take. Check out this video from Warmoth: which explains their "720 mod" option on their bodies which effects this gap. Normally it means removing the fretboard first, but in my case the neck was already loose, so I did not have to. Business, Economics, and Finance. Jun 20, 2008. I use thin 0,5mm wood. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. 5 radius fretboard approx . 5 radius fretboard approx . Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. you may want to undercut slightly underneath the fretboard, removing some of the old top underneath so that the fretboard overhangs slightly, not much, maybe 1/8". Most Warmoth bodies and necks use the Strat®-shaped heel and neck pocket as standard. I think Robert has the right idea. FretFind. Hard to find in this condition. My son and I are building a guitar for him for his High School senior project. Keep thinning it down untill your happy with the thickness. Direct typing of inches or metric is a nice feature too, without having to switch between the two measurement systems globally. May 18, 2016. Switching from a 21 to 22 fret neck usually requires no modification to the guitar. Super low action and plays perfectly with 10-46 gauge strings. Most basses have a rosewood fingerboard or a maple fingerboard. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. Has anyone built this kit? And could someone measure the distance from the bottom of the fretboard overhang and the guitar body? Mine seems extreme. You do need the fretboard overhang like a strat but that's no biggie as well. Completely normal. If the neck has a fretboard overhang it will cover the gap. 1. Fretboard Overhang. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Standard 21 Fret. IOW, if you conventionally and properly lay out a fanned fretboard by the two outer. I found a new Fender Player neck, but it interestingly seems slightly shorter than the original. A normal Jazzmaster his rounded, like a Strat's. Width and radius are very imporant, to the point I won't even look at narrower than 42mm or less than 9. 11-20-2010, 05:02 PM. The gap between the neck and body. First of all, a good clean and polish. Easier with the right bit mounted in a router table. 5 scale length, but it is longer than my fender neck (at the heel?) and I’m concerned about the alignment to the bridge if I insert it into the body. There's a seller on Ebay selling tele necks. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. I have had this looked at by a couple of different repairmen who , like me, believe this is original and not a modification as , although the heel has had some previous repair, it has not been altered. 83" at the first fret , . Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. There are actually full 22 fret necks that are not compatible with a traditional 21 fret neck pocket placement that would work with a 21 fret or 22 fret overhang. Last edited: Aug 8, 2020. 5 scale, but shorter 24. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. Seems like the MIM (and MIJ) necks don't, but the MIA's do. I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. I gave this one 22. Make template of pocket, scribe to bottom of neck -keeping in mind range where the scale length works w/saddle adjustments. Mildew Jones. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. Teles have squared ends and wider necks than strats, while strats have curved, rounded. ;) Thanks, I’m going to look into this. 125" in either sides. The Baritone Scale Conversion Neck employs an undercut heel design in order to fit these neck pockets. CryptoI have an Yngwie Signature Strat (borrowed off a mate XD) Anyway, all I can say is that they are EXTREMELY different to normal frets. Avoid spot heating in just one place. Bare Knuckle Mississippi Queen P90 PickupsNecks come with heel adjust truss rods by default, such as the hex nut or spokewheel rod. Some strat necks have a little fretboard overhang with an extra fret that goes over the body a little bit. There is a 3/16" (4. 720 Mod. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. Somehow the neck shifted in the pocket and I didn't notice it due to the fretboard overhang. (also make sure any fretboard overhang isn't bottoming out on the pickguard before the neck and body close up. Here is a picture of a warmoth conversion neck. . I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX TeslaMetallic black, awesome condition, rosewood fretboard. Haven't been much of a Tele person over the years but find myself wanting one now. 92" at the 12thBone NutDuel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg hole. Probably. Sasebo Maps and TyBo. Vibrato bridges. With the overhang and the pickguard, it will be invisible. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. I didn't even think of that. Paul Gilbert. The pickguard would hold the heel at an angle in the pocket. Most basses have a rosewood fingerboard or a maple fingerboard. Download Article. Bolts on the same and intonates properly. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. Many times it’s necessary to change slightly the angle of a bolt-on neck in order to “bring the fretboard closer to the strings” (or lower the string hight). 070”, 0. Hey @JACK G Merry Christmas! Yes, my SE serial CA has 22 frets and no skunk stripe. A PRS Silver Sky has a full 22 fret neck where the neck shaft and fingerboard are flush with each other and no overhang. . If not possible, what would be the technical reason? Thanks. If it does this with no screws there are limited reasons it could be happening. There also are rippled areas along the fretboard edges where they meet the top, on my single-cut and double-cut guitars as well. Ontario County. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. Likewise, the Saddles need to be closer to the nut for shorter scale. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. bbarott Most Honored Senior Member. I’m by no means a Gretsch expert and was only posting my limited personal experience. It is usually a thin, flat piece of wood or metal and is often elevated from. Riverdrifter, Kenneth Mountain, dbrian66 and 1 other person. 5mm at the zero fret. Warmoth 10-16” compound radius. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstoc. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. 0″ deep neck pocket, the top of the fretboard would be flush with the top of the guitar. I work out the fretboard dimensions using those plus 3mm either side for string overhang. Feb 1, 2019 #5. . This bass is great but the action gets quite high above the 10th fret. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. The large file stays over the finish and doesn't damage it at all, but takes the fret ends down nicely. . IMO a 24 fret extension on a 4 string would be a waste of $$$$. 125" to play with for pickguard clearance. Most necks using hyde glue come off in 30 minutes or so. The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . A fretboard is the part of a stringed musical instrument on which the strings are mounted. My monoprice tele is my current number one. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. Based on the unequal fretboard overhang, it looks like moving the bridge would fix the overhang and the pup alignment. Neither seem to make much difference after a moment. Handy that the guard screws come out. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Forgive me for being a pain, but I just bought a used Jackson neck and realized that I may have a slight problem with the project I'm working on. fingerboard with 22 frets, smooth and high density. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. It doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang There's just enough wiggle room that you can pull up on the pickguard so you can pull it back and clear the bridge, without issue. Apr 20, 2005 #5. But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. 83" at the first fret , . If you took a Tele neck and glued a piece of fretboard to the end with an additional fret on it, it wouldn't change the relationship between the nut, the 12th fret and the bridge. Bought a tele neck copy from eBay, China, 25. 5mm) heel pocket depth is just on 0. bettyseldest said: On the stock telecaster neck the 22nd fret sits on the fretboard overhang, so the neck sits in the same pocket as a 21 fret neck. I sourced various components from ebay, including a. Dec 21, 2005 #10 BLACKCAT69 Friend of Leo's. Jan 7, 2021 #2 cfreddy813 TDPRI Member. The saddles of the bridge then need to be farther from the nut for longer scale. - Possible fretboard overhang interference. . I want to put a MIA Telecaster neck on the Cabronita body. Equal: The scale length is from the nut to the bridge. I just looked through a bunch of Epiphone Les Paul Special photos and that seems to be standard. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. 35mm (0. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. deesonic Supporting Member. Measurements are. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. 22 polished and jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Cagey Senior member. They make a true 24 fret neck with 25-1/2" scale. Trying my best to make something usable. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. Keeping the same scale length, the fretboard would need overhang to where the neck pickup is. Even changing only the fretboard on your guitar neck is possible. It really is a stunning piece of work - the pics don't. I saw a few minor cosmetic flaws, like yellow paint sprayed on the edge of the fretboard overhang and what looked like buffed out file markings on the tail end of the fretboard. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. Feb 1, 2019 #5. Yours looks similar, but hard to tell. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. That solves the problem without a shim. Dec 25, 2015 #5. in my experience, the diff between heel or headstock adjustments is cosmetic/preference. If you get a 22 fret neck, I believe the fretboard overhang obscures the gaps, even without the scratchplate (or pickguard as we say over here in 'Murrica). GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Will this work on a standard p bass body. After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. To shim that would require a piece at the heel and it would be very visible. As on the 22-fret Am Pro jazzmaster, Am Performer, and Player. 53mm at the 22 fret, it simply wouldn't fit in the neck socket without some trimming. (Coming soon! Photos to show fretboard overhangs and the movement of neck pickup routes to compensate for increased fingerboard overhang on 24 fret necks.